I received a promotional email from Title Nine today about their swimwear. So what’s wrong with this picture?

I’m guessing even without my helpful editing, it wouldn’t have taken you too long to figure it out. Title Nine is pretty much the antithesis of “all shapes and sizes.” And I say this as an admirer of their company and as a customer (when I can afford it, usually at clearance, because their prices are pretty much insane). Of course, the only reason I could speak from that position of relative leverage in my response to them below is because I happen to fit into their clothes right now. How deliciously ironic (as the Robot Devil might say).
Anyway, here’s the email I sent:
I am writing to comment on the fact that your recent email advertising the 2009 swimwear collection was headed “Swimwear in all shapes & sizes.” This is laughable coming from T9, which is famous for a complete lack of diversity both in its product sizing and that of the models/athletes featured in its catalogs.
(Incidentally, those models–and I realize they are not “models” per se, but that’s how they function in the catalog–are also usually quite racially homogeneous, and other differences including age and disability are not addressed at all. I appreciate T9’s use of a more athletic, fit, active “look” in presentation of its products, but I would suggest that you are simply substituting another difficult-to-attain aesthetic for the usual super-thin catalog model, when the emphasis should be on function. I’m sure your customers come in a wide variety of sizes and even among the very fit and competitive, not all are a tan, weathered size 2 with 6-pack abs.)
Getting back to the issue at hand, I happen to fit into your swimwear, so the email subject line I mentioned does not affect me personally, but I know a number of active women who love the outdoors and participating in sports who simply throw your catalog in the trash without opening it, because the sizing range is even more restrictive than that of most women’s clothing lines (e.g. a large or XL often represents anywhere from a 10-14, and in my experience the sizing tends to run small even within that range), and there is not a single garment in the catalog that comes anywhere close to fitting them.
I love your quality and focus on women’s health, strength, and achievement, and I admire T9’s commitment to customer service and involvement with women and its community. I would, however, encourage you to blaze a trail by selling clothes that active larger women can wear and enjoy–and by that I mean a full selection of your regular and most popular items in the full range of colors for extended sizes, rather than the usual trajectory for plus size lines at major retailers (that is, halfheartedly offering one or two unattractive, dumpy selections in a limited color selection, followed by poor sales, a quick discontinuation of plus sizes and a bewildered claim that there must just not be a market for the stuff because nobody’s buying it).
Or if you can’t do that, then at least refrain from blatantly false claim that “all shapes and sizes” of women are represented by the narrow range of swimwear sizing offered by T9, when in reality even the average American woman is probably near the top of your swimwear size range. I know this one email subject line is just a few words and easy to overlook–in theory, as a woman who fits into your clothes, it would be fairly easy for me to overlook too. But for larger straight-sized and plus-sized women looking for high-quality sports attire that is pretty much nonexistent in their size range, the subject line demonstrates once again that in retailers’ eyes, they (and their clothing and equipment budget) are invisible, unimportant, and unwanted. Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
Feel free to lend your voice if you like using their email contact form. I don’t think they’re an evil company, and I do appreciate the fact that models in their catalog are allowed to have wrinkles and not be blonde, and their attempts to promote an aesthetic of strength, health, and accomplishment rather than simply that of decorative thinness, devoid of normal “flaws” and bodily variation, which is more like what you see in most women’s catalogs. I just think they’re a little clueless that not every female athlete or fitness enthusiast is as thin (not to mention as well-off, able-bodied, and–almost always–white) as their featured athlete/models. Of course, it amounts to pretty much the same thing from a customer’s standpoint, if the functional sports apparel you’re looking for literally does not exist in your size.
ETA: I received the following response today (4/1) from Title Nine customer service (as I said, I do think they are a good and service-oriented company). However, I’ve been receiving their catalog for years with no sign of an expanded size range yet, so who knows when or if they will ever actually start doing this.
Thanks for contacting us. Please know that we would love to be able to carry so much more as far as sizes and styles. We definitely don’t mean to exclude anyone and encourage women of all shapes and sized to stay active and fit. You might be surprised but we have quite a range of ladies her at title nine from size 0 to 16+, from petite to tall, and muscular to skinny.
We actually get a lot of requests from women of all shapes and sizes (including us here in the office) requesting that we carry a wider range of sizes including petite, plus, and tall. Unfortunately, we just don’t have the warehouse space right now to stock as much inventory as we’d like. We’re hopeful that as we continue to grow as a company that we will be able to offer a wider range of sizes to accommodate the needs of more active women of all shapes and sizes.
March 30, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Count me among those who’ve gotten their catalogue more than once and then immediately tossed it with a roll of the eye at their name and offerings.
March 30, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Count me among the people who look wistfully at the catalog then throw it in the trash.
A couple of years ago I even tried to speak with them directly about it, telephoning their customer service line and even calling the corporate offices (I live in the same general area so this was easy).
I told them that as a relatively active size 22/24 woman with 44DDD/F or larger breasts I looked longingly at their sports bras but just couldn’t make them work for me. I would really love to be a customer of theirs, I pleaded — couldn’t they stock something that might work for me?
Apparently not, since you can still write blog posts like this one.
March 30, 2009 at 10:53 pm
They have sent me their catalog off and on throughout my adult life–during the majority of which I have had no use for it because none of their stuff fit me. Why do they keep doing this? Their market research should have tipped them off that I was buying from Jessica London and Lane Bryant, not, say, REI or Anthropologie. Anyway, I’m definitely with you guys.
The heck of it is, they are always cited as the go-to place for sports bras, and they do have an amazing selection of high-quality bras. But in plus sizes (that is, very large cup sizes or even moderately large band sizes)? Nope. I’m not sure this is their fault, but I have also noticed they have very few truly supportive bras for smaller cup sizes. It’s like they assume (probably the manufacturers are responsible for this) that all breasts under a D cup are perky enough not to require support, and all athletes with larger breasts are small through the rest of their bodies. It’s irritating.
March 31, 2009 at 12:31 am
Actually, I find even their sports bra range to generally be fairly limited – better than most, yes, but given that they’re marketing themselves as for active women, and the bra issue is one of the things that’s really made them successful, I find it quite frustrating that their DD+ range is pretty slim – regardless of band size.
(The most recent catalog I got seems a bit better, but not much.)
Likewise, they do a lot of lovely tops and dresses with built-in shelf bras – with no indication whatsoever of what cup size they are aimed at, and so I just figure it’s probably far too tiny for my boobs and don’t bother – even though the items would probably get heavy wear if they DID fit me.
Further, also on the subject of boobs – swimwear for all shapes and sizes should also include swimwear that will actually work for women with larger breasts – not ONE of their swimsuit offerings looks like it would be sensibly supportive for a well-endowed woman looking for a suit that it’s comfortable to be athletic in. Since I’m constantly looking for something that would be flattering and yet fit well enough that my boobs wouldn’t pop out if I bent over or wanted to jog after a stray volleyball, it’s REALLY annoying.
March 31, 2009 at 7:24 am
I agree, I’m not sure how functional their swimsuits would be. The straps and shelf bras look pretty flimsy. I mean, that’s certainly no different or worse than most swimwear out there, but if it’s being marketed as athletic wear, it should be held to a little higher standard. What do you think about the Athleta suits? I think they have some that are at least supposedly sized for D+ cups, but I don’t know how they actually fit or work.
Regarding bras, I agree T9’s offerings in larger cup sizes (and again, in actual supportive styles for smaller cup sizes) are limited, but it’s probably still one of the best selections out there. Last time I needed a new bra, I ended up combing through tons of reviews and finding one I like (which is not sold through T9) on amazon.com, but it was a pain.
April 2, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Hmmm…it’s nice that they replied and were honest, but I feel like the problem they didn’t address was why they called their collection “all shapes and sizes” when it’s clearly not and (from the sounds of it) never will be.
April 3, 2009 at 10:21 am
Yeah, I agree. Hopefully–even if they don’t want to feel like they said anything wrong–the more people that call them on stuff like this, the more it might come back to them when they are choosing their wording in the future. And hopefully at some point, if they are no longer able to completely pretend large women don’t exist, that might translate to thinking about us when they make merchandising and marketing decisions too.
I suppose the response was just a very clever, friendly form email that they send in response to any and all complaints from disgruntled fat chicks, though…
Somebody should test that theory by sending them an email focusing solely on the “all shapes and sizes” business. As you may have noticed, focus and brevity are not exactly my strong suits.
January 17, 2010 at 10:56 pm
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